Curse

~ Dan ~ · Jan 29, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous

Solution? Don't hang out in Great Temple, there is no reason to be there other than just starting a PvP char or selling zaishen keys.

If you read the OP, he mentioned going to test a build in the isle of the nameless. Quite a lot of people do this actually. Your solution = fail.

Avai · Jan 29, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09

There are no sellers in my district. Italian districts also never have any lag.

Please come play with me, guys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkWasp

Gold sellers are black market and screw with the economies of real countries. They should be imprisoned, not just banned.

Cargan · Jan 29, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

They're definitely getting bolder. I don't visit PvP areas as I only PvE, so this does not just affect the Great Temple of Balthazar. On Sunday when I was vanquishing an area in Ascalon, about an hour or so into it, I get a random whisper from someone called Asdf Fdsa [note: I know we're not allowed to give names, but it's a gold seller and they have no rights] adverstising a gold selling site. I figured it was just random so took a screenshot with intent to report it later.

Later on the same day I'm out vanquishing an area in the Northern Shiverpeaks and the same person whispers me again with the exact same message. Again, I had been in the area for around an hour and not been at any outposts recently.

After the second time I got the message I added them to the ignore list, but the fact that I received the same message from the same name makes me think they're just collating names from somewhere and hitting a macro to whisper them all the advertisement, just like telemarketing machines.

and no, I've not had any dealings with gold sellers other than reporting them when I see them advertise at outposts.

While the gold sellers will always be around, the matter has just gotten out of hand now. They're spreading through the game more and more each day and Anet seems to be doing nothing to try to stop them.

Compare this with something like FFXI where they're banning 10-20 thousand people every few months for violating the EULA. They actively search for gold sellers and the like and try to keep the game clear from them (although it's impossible, at least they're making an effort).

Anet don't even pretend to do anything about gold sellers. There is no reassurance to the GW community that anything is being done or going to be done. This leads us all to believe that it's only going to get worse.

MithranArkanere · Jan 29, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

They could put banbots against spambots:

- NPC detects someone repeating a line or speaking alone, or too much time without being answered, or someone that is being ignored way too much.
- NPC sends a whisper: "This is the automated bot prevention system. Please make this addition:" & "random_number[0..9]" & "+" & random_number[0..9] "and answer just the numeric without anything else."
- If bots can't read lines onscreen, then this should work.

Also 'alarms' when somone is ignored way too much for being normal.

Oukanna · Jan 29, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

I can honestly say, ive never had a pm saying that to me lol
Ive been through the temple of balth and seen a few spammers there, but never got pmed ^^

I didn't realize it is getting out of hand now, doesn't the /report feature do anything about it??

Ive not really used /report so i dont know if its good or not lol

pfaile · Jan 29, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Like it has been said before, it is not only at the temple but in PVE parts of the world. Gold sellers might have gotten our ign's here or another site, or they are trapping names in game with a program.

Sunyavadin · Jan 29, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhedd

Although I've noticed this a LOT in the American districts, I have yet to see it in the English European ones, oddly.

Really? I get it daily now. Mainly in the last few weeks.

Shakti · Jan 29, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

They could put banbots against spambots:

- NPC detects someone repeating a line or speaking alone, or too much time without being answered, or someone that is being ignored way too much.
- NPC sends a whisper: "This is the automated bot prevention system. Please make this addition:" & "random_number[0..9]" & "+" & random_number[0..9] "and answer just the numeric without anything else."
- If bots can't read lines onscreen, then this should work.

Also 'alarms' when somone is ignored way too much for being normal.

This is kinda brilliant

Can this actually be done with the random numerics?? Not would they, could they? Great way to detect idiots as well...if you can't add 4 + 6, you're outta here!

LeoX · Jan 29, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

I see them spam, but i've never been PM'ed.

Red Sonya · Jan 29, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

All Anet needs to do is park an employee there for 30min a day to thin them down.

All Anet needs to do is honor the /report system, but, they aren't. These same people are there day after day night after night even after I've issued several reports on each of them on a daily/nightly basis. Anet/NCsoft just says one thing and doesn't do anything is my firm belief. Except when they have someone exploiting the game engine then they go after them hard and furious like the dumb 117 that got banned recently. But, I really don't think they care about gold sellers as much as Gaile lets on they do. If they did they would be gone within 24 hours or 48 at the most. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to READ the /report just in "So n So offering gold for sale from www. come buy it now.com there's no ifs' ands' or but's to those reports should be immediate permanent banning.

Darksun · Jan 29, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by bhavv

They are worse in ID1 then anywhere else. Gaile has said that trial accounts cant whisper, but everytime an Itemcoo bot is banned, theres a new one the next day.

I seriously dont think they are buying a new account everyday.

She also stated that a majority of botter accounts are stolen with keyloggers.

Ku Ku · Jan 29, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

It doesnt just happen in Temple of Balth, I've had it several times in Shing Jea too... the worse one was a Sex website spammer... he pmed me every 5secs or so... i was bombarded!

Billeh · Jan 29, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

I hate that so much, even if you ignore them there are so many.

T. Drake · Jan 29, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

It happens all over the Battle Isles

I think I've reported 3 or 4 gold sellers so far. That's the best (and only) thing you can do.

Malice Black · Jan 29, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Never had one of these...but I don't farm on teh interweb

credit · Jan 29, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Don't chill in gtob, only lame people chill there.

Fril Estelin · Jan 29, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Please post your /sign on this "Novel Way to Combat Gold-Seller Spam":
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10249569

If we can get several hundreds of signature, may be that can trigger something positive for our community?

Upset_Farmer · Jan 29, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Ok, my ignore list is pretty much filled with blocked "gold selling bots". Worst is that now they spam whisper you then hop district so the report system is well, useless, why hasn't Anet look into this matter yet

*yes i know they are busy working hard on gw2 and all, but I'm sure they have a separate department that deals with in-game issues*

Lady S Shiva · Jan 29, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

hell yeah, i was there last nite, 10 guys pm me in less than one hour, please ban them

NeHoMaR · Jan 29, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

All Anet needs to do is park an employee there for 30min a day to thin them down.

Why? they should simply make the reports KICK the bot, if +20 reports (of different players, different guilds), banned for 3 hours.

OR, even simpler, ban for 3 hours everyone spamming the same single message more than 10 times in 1 minute.